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Stranded 2:29 Thu Oct 8
The Alf Garnett Saga
Just noticed someone's stuck it up on youtube complete. If you don't remember it, it's the second Til Death Us Do Part film. Which I think they stopped showing years ago, due to some of the content.

If you don't want to sit through the whole thing, the scenes at the Boleyn and with Bobby Moore in the pub start around 59:30. The scene where he accidentally takes acid starts at 1:12:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8y4igrUb8M

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Far Cough 5:13 Thu Oct 8
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AfM 4:18 Thu Oct 8
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Yes, as has previously been pointed out

charlie paynter 5:08 Thu Oct 8
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Loved watching that old footage! New Years Day 1972, a 42,000 crowd watching us beat the Mancs 3-0, cheeky goal from Pop Robson and an air shot from George Best (who must have been out on the piss the night before).

The scenes walking into the Boleyn is how I'll always fondly remember it, and it was a bit surreal seeing Arthur Askey & co down the Black Lion afterwards.

Never seen that before, thanks for posting.

AfM 4:30 Thu Oct 8
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Oh Blimey,,. Before any misunderstanding surfaces...

Just to clarify. I don't think anyone who posts on here is as moronically right wing as Alf Garnett and did not mean to imply that at all.

, 4:21 Thu Oct 8
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Oh don't start.

AfM 4:18 Thu Oct 8
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It's very funny that some people don't get that the comedy was laughing at what a moronic right wing idiot he was.

It's very badly dated.

Leonard Hatred 3:17 Thu Oct 8
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The pub was the Black Lion.

Northern Sold 2:50 Thu Oct 8
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Loved the one when Marigold took him over West ham in his wheelchair... he was NOT invalided it was just so he could get in cheaper and be on the side of the pitch... Copper comes and stands next to Alf and gives him a few strange looks... a few mins later West Ham score and up jumps Alf celebrating.... Alf then realises his mistake by letting his cover drop... sits back down in his wheelchair and turns and says to the Copper.. "It's only a bloomin' miracle..."

Sir Alf 2:05 Thu Oct 8
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Northern Sold 11:56 Thu Oct 8

Thanks for that Sold, It was always known to those with a few brain cells that Speight was ridiculing racists and it was the reaction and of course an irony of the Whitehouse and PC brigades that made it even funnier.

It dated in many respects but there are still some comedy gold moments. I seem to remember an episode in one of teh last series where Alf (note he was one of the inspirations for my moniker) gave a rant to one of the officers in the Social Security office as he tried to get his pension or a benefit or was being stopped a benefit? Wish I could find that :-)

Monk~koknee 1:06 Thu Oct 8
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Question to father and youngest child only.

Golden Oldie 1:03 Thu Oct 8
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...


If posters not normally known for their integrity or honesty are going to tell the truth it's only fair that it should be acknowledged, it was an anomaly an accidental truth told when the guard was down so to speak, highly unlikely to happen again

Monk~koknee 12:59 Thu Oct 8
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Robert Robinson was a great quizmaster in that show.

Golden Oldie 12:52 Thu Oct 8
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Far Cough wrote...

"All in the Family was a direct copy of Till Death do us Part"

Yep, same concept and modus operandi.

Far Cough 12:39 Thu Oct 8
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All in the Family was a direct copy of Till Death do us Part

Joke Royal 12:37 Thu Oct 8
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Dan?

Dan M 12:36 Thu Oct 8
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Please don't ever use one of my posts to make one of your points Tom.

Golden Oldie 12:25 Thu Oct 8
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It's alright Northern, accidents can happen and you can sometimes tell the truth, albeit inadvertently.

Northern Sold 12:22 Thu Oct 8
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Oh my god...

Golden Oldie 12:18 Thu Oct 8
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A combination of what Dan M and Northern Sold said.

It was all part of the 'politically correct' brainwash propaganda used as a device to shape and instill the system of thought crime, there was an equivalent TV show in the US called All in the Family.

Same MO
The “Archie” character was conservative, stupid, racist, homophobic, anti-Hispanic, anti-women. Archie’s right wing persona versus his practically retarded wife, who somehow got things right in the end, proved Archie was the “ignorant” one. This was supposed to be funny. But was simply counter-cultural attack against the heart of America.

Northern Sold 11:56 Thu Oct 8
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In a demonstration of Speight's satirical skills - after a successful libel action brought against Speight by Mary Whitehouse[2] - he created an episode, first broadcast on 27 February 1967, in which Alf Garnett is depicted as an admirer of Whitehouse. Garnett was seen proudly reading her first book. "What are you reading?" his son-in-law asks. When he relates that it is Mary Whitehouse - his son-in-law sniggers. Alf's rejoinder is "She's concerned for the bleedin' moral fibre of the nation!" The episode ends with the book being burnt.[3]

Ultimately "silly moo" became a comic catchphrase. Another Garnett phrase was "it stands to reason", usually before making some patently unreasonable comment. Alf was an admirer of Enoch Powell, a right-wing Conservative politician known particularly for strong opposition to the immigration of non-white races into the United Kingdom. Alf was also a supporter of West Ham United (a football club based in the East End) and known to make derogatory remarks about "the Jews up at Spurs" (referring to Tottenham Hotspur, a north London club with a sizeable Jewish following). This was a playful touch by Speight, knowing that in real life Mitchell was both Jewish and a Spurs supporter. In interviews, Speight explained he had originally based Alf on his father, an East End docker who was staunchly reactionary and held "unenlightened" attitudes toward black people. Speight made clear that he regretted his father held such attitudes - beliefs Speight regarded as reprehensible. Speight saw the show as a way of ridiculing such views and dealing with his complex feelings about his father.

Eddie B 11:55 Thu Oct 8
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That's bullshit, Dan.

Northern Sold 11:54 Thu Oct 8
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I thought it was because Johnny Speight was a Hammer?

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